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CHINESE QUING DYNYSTY KEYWIND AND SET
The Qing Dynasty
JUVET BIG EIGHT
IN SILVER WITH ENGLISH LEVER
[ENGLISH LEVER 1840-1860 WAS TOP LINE]
–THIS IS NOT PIN SET EXPLAINED BELOW–
KEY WIND AND SET
ALL APPROPRIATE HALL MARKS
INCLUDING THE CARVING BELOW
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ONE DATES TO IMPERIAL TO WWII PERIOD
WITH KANJI
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JUVET HISTORICAL CARVED HALL MARK
THE LEGEND OF JUVET HISTORY IN CHINA
In 1850, the China Qing Dynasty opened a number of ports to foreign trade.
At that time JUVET was already well established in China. In 1856, Edouard
Juvet of Switzerland began to produce the “Big Eight Pieces” pocket watches
specially designed for the China market.
The first JUVET watch shop was established in Shanghai when in 1860, Edouard Juvet’s two sons, Ami Louis Juvet and Leo Juvet moved to Shanghai, China to manage the JUVET watch business.
During the time, JUVET watches were very successful in China’s flourishing watch market.
The Beijing and Tianjin JUVET branches were subsequently opened in the next two years.
JUVET pocket watches were finely handcrafted and their unique artistic style were welcomed
by the royal family members and nobles of the Qing Dynasty. Owning a JUVET pocket watch
is a symbol of nobility. JUVET has since become the emperor’s watch brand.
GSW IS OFFERING THIS SILVER BIG 8 MODEL
In 1872, Leo Juvet made this remark. It is suggested that JUVET pocket watches were a reputable
household name during the time.Most of the collections of antique JUVET are with private
collectors and China museums.
JUVET ANTIQUE BIG 8 WATCHES IN SILVER, GOLD AND SOME WITH ENAMELED
CASE BACKS HAVE BEEN OFFERED FOR WORLD WIDE AUCTION AT CHRISTIE’S
WHAT IS IS WORTH? WITH 150000 IMAGES OF RESTORATIONS
I MUST HAVE AN EDGE ON PRICING AND I SAY
$1900.00 [USD]
TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE POCKET WATCH HARD CASE
WITH VERIFIED JAPANESE IMPERIAL ERA [1930/1939] WWII [1939/1945] KANJI
AND THE RARE [I HAVE NOT SEEN ANOTHER] THE OUTER BOX.
SIMILAR MODEL W/O THE ASIAN HISTORY
GILDED FINISH LESS QUAILITY
NO TIES TO IMPERIAL JAPAN
IT IS A JUVET MADE IN CHINA
FOR FRENCH MKT
ANTIQUE-PARIS-FRANCE-CHINA-DUPLEX-SILVER
SIGNED-POCKET-WATCH-CHINESE-MARKET
Silver Pocket for the Chinese market.
Case No. 143151
SIGNED on both sides Mark LF and Co., Paris.
LEO JUVET
FINE PAIR OF SILVER MANUALLY-WOUND
POCKET WATCHES WITH CENTRE SECONDS
, MADE FOR THE CHINESE MARKET
NO. 224897 & 224886, CIRCA 1875
Price Realized
HK$81,250 Set Currency
($10,485)
THE JUVET BRAND IS CURRENTLY MARKETED AS FOLLOWS
THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY MARKETS BUT THE CO IS NOT WHAT IT WAS
LIKE ZODIAC AND BULOVA AND SO MANY OTHERS
REINCARNATED TO BECOME STANDARD MACHINE BUILT
HONG KONG
CHINA
MACAU
TAIWAN
OUTER CASE
INNER BOX
CLOTH
POCKET WATCH
AND
POCKET WATCH LANYARD HOLDING KEY
JUST THE CASE
46.01 MM 1.81 INCHES
W/NECK/BUTTON
54.99 MM 2.1 INCHES
WITH BALE
69 MM 2.74 INCHES
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ONE OF THE RAREST
ASIAN POCKET WATCHES
NOT IN A MUSEUM
DATING FROM 1850’S TO 1870’S
BOTH
JAPAN AND CHINA
ARE
REPRESENTED
IN THIS
SILVER CASED
ENGLISH LEVER
11 JEWEL
KEY WIND AND SET
POCKET WATCH
WITH
100%
KANJI CHARACTER
HALLMARKED
MOVEMENT CASE BACK CASE COVER
CELEBRATING BETWEEN
140 TO 164
YEARS
OF THE
OLD WORLD
ORIENT
FROM
1850/75 TO 2014
MAP OF ASIA RUSSIA 1887
DIVIDED AMONG THE MAJOR COLONIAL POWERS
WHEN THE
BRITISH DUTCH GERMAN
RUSSIAN U.S. AND FRENCH
MANEUVERED
FOR COLONIAL POWER
WITH
OUTER JAPANESE SIGNED STORAGE BOX
INNER JAPANESE CLOTH
INNER JAPANESE SIGNED POCKET WATCH BOX
WITH
A WHITE NATURAL FEATHERED PEACOCK
KANJI REPRESENTING JAPAN’S NAVAL MILITARY
A BUILT IN POCKET WATCH HOLDER
TWO EARLY AWESOME PHOTOS
[ONE PHOTOS LOOKS LIKE A CATHOLIC CHURCH]
OUTER STORAGE BOX SIGNED “MADE IN JAPAN
ALSO SIGNED THAT IT IS A TREATED STORAGE BOX
IT IS A HARD FINISH OUTER “TREATED SKIN. IMPERVIOUS
TO ALCOHOL AND OTHER CHEMICALS THUS THE FINISH
IS NOT LACER BUT A NATURAL TREATMENT
5 INCHES ACROSS
2 1/2 INCHES TALL
CONSTRUCTED OF
PRESSED PAPER
WOOD
AND A
THICK FINISHING MATERIAL
From 1921 to 1941 items made in JAPAN were required to be marked either “JAPAN” or “MADE IN JAPAN” . From 1942 to 1945 all Japanese goods were banned. The U.S. Customs Bureau decreed in 1949 that Japanese goods could be marked “OCCUPIED JAPAN”. “MADE IN OCCUPIED JAPAN”, “JAPAN” or “MADE IN JAPAN. In the 1950’s,technology improved and paper labels were allowed. The two most common types of labels were Small oval or rectangular blue or black paper with white letters. Two -color metallic, such as black or red with gold or silver lettering. The best items to collect are post-WWII “Made in Japan” pieces but the item should be quality with no damage– like the hard finish storage box above .
THE OUTER BOX HAS A UNIQUE JAPANESE FINISH
A LIST OF “PROOFS” WERE ON THE BACK ONLY ONE,
” ALCOHOL”
REMAINS
A JAPANESE DECORATED CLOTH IS WRAPPED AROUND AN AGED
POCKET WATCH SPECIFIC WATCH BOX BUILT FROM MATERIALS DATING
1870 THROUGH 1940 INCLUDING A SILK LINER THERE ARE TWO
AGED ANTIQUE PHOTOS WE HAVE NOT ID’ED
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Rise Of Imperial Japan
1905 – 1945
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| Imperial Army |
Imperial Seal |
Seal & Flag |
Imperial Flag |
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THE OUTER BOX AND INNER CLOTH ARE NOT DATED TO THE INNER
JAPANESE POCKET WATCH BOX
THEY ARE DATE LATER.
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ESCAPING TIME
ANIMATED KEY WIND SET ENGLISH LEVER
DOUBLE OFF-SET SILVER HINGED CASE
NOTE FRONT OPENS DOWN FROM
TOP BALE WITH BUTTON
BEFORE
NOTE SILVER CASE BACK
OPENS TO LEFT OF TOP BALE
JUST THE CASE
46.01 MM 1.81 INCHES
W/NECK/BUTTON
54.99 MM 2.1 INCHES
WITH BALE
69 MM 2.74 INCHES
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AFTER RESTORE
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KEY WIND KEY SET
THIS BEAUTY IS NOT ONLY AN
ENGLISH LEVER ESCAPEMENT
BUT A KEY WIND AND SET
WHICH PLACES THE DATE TO
1850/1870
IT IS LITERALLY WRAPPED IN ASIAN HISTORY
A YEAR WAS INVOLVED IN ITS RESTORATION
FROM 1675 TO 1720, ALMOST ALL POCKET WATCH MOVEMENTS WERE BASED ON THE VERGE ESCAPEMENT DEVELOPED FOR LARGE PUBLIC CLOCKS IN THE 14TH CENTURY.
THE VERGE CREATED A HIGH DEGREE OF FRICTION DUE TO IT’S MAKEUP AND THE LACK OF JEWELING TO PROTECT THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS.
THESE MOVEMENTS RARELY ACHIEVED ANY STANDARD OF ACCURACY –OFTEN HAVING TO BE RESET OVER AND OVER EVERY DAY OR THEY WOULD RUN AN HOUR A DAY OR MORE OFF.
THE FIRST IMPROVEMENT WAS THE CYLINDER ESCAPEMENT DEVELOPED BY ABBE’ DE HAUTEFEUILLE EARLY IN THE 18TH CENTURY AND APPLIED BY ENGLISH MAKER GEORGE GRAHAM.TOWARDS THE END OF THE 18TH CENT [1700],
THE LEVER ESCAPEMENT WAS INVENTED BY THOMAS MUDGE IN 1759 AND PUT INTO LIMITED PRODUCTION BY A FEW MAKERS INCLUDING JOSIAH EMERY (A SWISS MAN BASED IN LONDON] and ABRAHAM LOUIS BREGUET . THIS DOMESTIC WATCH COULD KEEP TIME TO A MINUTE A DAY.
EVENTUALLY THREE TYPES OF LEVER ESCAPEMENTS, ONE AFTER THE OTHER, WOULD BECOME COMMON AFTER 1820.
WITH THE 3RD OR LAST, THE SWISS PALLET FORK LEVER, STILL UTILIZED IN MOST MECHANICAL WATCHES TODAY.
NOTE THE GOLD CHARACTERS ON THIS ORIGINAL DIAL
THE TIME PIECE OFFERED HEREIN IS COMPLETELY ORIGINAL
MAIN SPRING AND OTHER PARTS CHANGED WERE CHANGED
USING ONLY ORIGINAL PARTS SCAVENGED FROM
TWO SIMILAR ORIGINAL MOVEMENTS
OTHER THAN
SOME LIGHT DENTS IN SILVER CASE COIN EDGE
SOME WEAR OF SILVER CASE CROSS HATCH FISH SCALE FINISH
SOME WEAR OF ART WORK IN CENTER OF SILVER CASE
THE BALANCE OF SILVER CASE, HINGES,
MOVEMENT, COVERS, BALE/BAIL AND PUSH
BUTTON NECK ARE 100% AS WAS ORIGINALLY
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ESCAPEMENTS BY HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT
1) IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS THE: Verge –
the first escapement assembly utilized a escape wheel shaped like a crown, with pointed teeth that are vertical (perpendicular to the plane of the wheel) and interact with two pallets on the verge rod
CLICK HERE -POP UP- TO SEE IN ACTION
2) THEN THERE WAS THE: Cylinder –
the escape wheel has even more complex teeth than the VERGE, and the teeth interact directly with the cylinder at the center of the balance wheel (instead of with pallets)
3)THEN THERE WAS THE FIRST DETACHED *LEVER ESCAPEMENT-
Thomas Mudge (1715 – 1794 ), an English horologist, invented the lever escapement, which was the greatest single watch making and time keeping improvement since the dawn of keeping time. Though Mr. Mudge designed this improvement, it was not until 1820 that the verge escapement, which was widely used in watches, began to decline because of another new LEVER design based on Mudge’s detached lever escapement, emerged in the English Midlands.
4) THE FIRST GENERATION SEMI MODERN *English Lever –
This new design, called the English lever, BECAME THEE ESCAPEMENT by 1840. the escape wheel has pointed teeth that are horizontal (parallel with the plane of the wheel) and interact with two pallets on the lever
* NOTE WE ARE NOT TALKING OR WRITING ABOUT THE CHEAP PIN LEVER ESCAPEMENT
4) THE MODERN DAY SWISS LEVER –
the escape wheel has club-shaped teeth that are horizontal and interact with two pallets on the lever. {Pallet fork)
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JAPANESE – RUSSIAN WAR
Japanese General Kuroki and his staff, including foreign officers and war correspondents 1904
BATTLE INVOLVING BASES OPERATED BY RUSSIA IN CHINA
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The English Lever Orient Pocket Watch
AROUND 1850, the general public began to prefer the lever to cylinder escapement . [I am not writing ABOUT PIN LEVER MOVEMENTS]. The English lever incorporated a major improvement over Mudge’s design. The design kept the fork away from the balance wheel until the pin returned to engage the fork better than Mudge’s design, this was the force necessary to prevent the fork from rotating, keeping it in its desired place.
The English lever has flat locking faces that lean forward by about 15º to allow the escape wheel to rotate forward by about 1º during lock. The roller jewel on the balance wheel then engages the fork to unlock the pallet, the escape wheel is pushed in the opposite direction, requiring little extra force to unlock. This draws the fork away from the balance wheel between engagements, ensuring consistent timekeeping.
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THE HISTORY OF THIS AMAZING RARE
ENGLISH JEWELED LEVER POCKET WATCH
THE FACT IS THIS WATCH NOT ONLY HAS THE ANTIQUE ENGLISH LEVER, BUT IS A KEY WIND & SET POCKET WITH THE LAYOUT OF THE ACTUAL ENGLISH MADE POCKET CHRONOMETER WATCHES ABOVE.
THE ENGLISH WATCH INDUSTRY, FROM 1799 TO 1900, WAS WELL KNOWN AND HIGHLY RESPECTED. AN INDUSTRY LEADER PRODUCING SOME OF THE TOP CHRONOMETERS IN THE WORLD, EXPERIENCED A DECLINE IN THE MANUFACTURE OF PARTS AND MOVEMENTS THAT ENDED IN 1900. THOUGH MANY TOP GRADE WRIST WATCHES WOULD BE ERE DEVELOPED, INCLUDING THE BRITISH PATENTED HARWOOD AUTOMATIC [FIRST PRODUCTION AUTOMATIC EVER] BUMPER WRIST WATCH, THEY ALL UTILIZED THE SWISS PALLET FORK LEVER ESCAPEMENT–AND OTHER SWISS MADE EBAUCHES, PARTS AND CASES.
THE FIRST POCKET WATCHES WITH HAND MADE KEY WIND AND SET MOVEMENTS. WERE MANUFACTURED IN THE 16TH CENTURY AND LASTED TO AROUND 1875.
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THIS TIME PIECE PREDATES BY A HALF CENTURY
THE OPENING OF THE EAST TO THE WATCH COMPANIES
OF AMERICA – LIKE WALTHAM IN 1916 ADD BELOW
WALTHAM ADVERTISING THAT JAPAN COMES TO WANTED
WALTHAM FOR THEIR WATCHES
DATED 1916
SILVER PUSH BUTTON WATCH CASE
WITH KANJI / CHARACTER HALLMARKS
SOME DENTS [MAGNIFIED] IN THE COIN RING
SILVER CASE ONCE SPORTED CROSS HATCH FINISH
“FISH SCALE”
NOTE RIGHT OF CENTER ART
160 YEARS OF LIGHT WEAR
WORE IT ENOUGH TO
ABSENT SOME OF THAT FINISH
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Great Empire of Manchuria
Manchuria was an essential source of raw materials.
Without occupying Manchuria, the Japanese carried their plan for conquest.
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The English lever escapement was used until the end of watch production in England, around 1900- caused by less expensive imports from the United States and Switzerland, and by the failure of English watchmakers to adapt to changing technologies and markets. Specifically the new Pallet Fork Escapement [CALLED THE SWISS LEVER] .
Condition is Excellent This Is Not Cardboard
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Japanese staged an incident along the South Manchuria Railway called the
“Mukden Bridge Incident” as pretext to taking over Manchuria.
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YOU CAN SEE LAYERS OF PROTECTIVE FINISH
THE EXTERIOR IS W/O LOSS
THE INTERIOR HAS SOME LOSS
WE DO NOT HAVE A JAPANESE KANJI DICTIONARY
WE DO HAVE A CHINESE TO ENGLISH MILITARY
DICTIONARY FOR SOLDIERS DURING WWII
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courtesy direct link to wikipedia
Meiji era, is a Japanese era which extended from September 8, 1868 through July 30, 1912
Japanese society moved from being an isolated feudal society to its modern form
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2 3/4 X 3 1/4
NOW, IT LOOK 4 MONTHS TO CLEAN WHAT IS A RAISED FEATHERED JAPANESE WHITE PEACOCK ON TOP OF THIS WATCH BOX IT IS MISSING LEGS, PART OF THE BEAK AND IT HAD SOME LOSS OF FEATHERS FROM THE BODY. BUT IT IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.
I HAD TO MAKE A JELLED MIXTURE TO CLEAN THE BROWN STAINS ON THE BIRD. NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I SAW TWO GLASS TUBES OF WHITENER THAT WERE USED BY MY DAUGHTER AFTER HER BRACES WERE REMOVED. I’LL BE, IT WORKED OVER NIGHT. THE WHITE BECAME WHITE NO DAMAGE AND CLEANED UP COMPLETELY
THERE IS DEFINITELY JAPANESE KANJI WITH PROOF OF A MILITARY SOLDIER OR OFFICER ONCE OWNING THE BOX. AND, THE FACT THAT THE BOX HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE NOT ONLY JAPANESE MADE, BUT MADE FOR A POCKET WATCH EXACTLY THE SIZE IN EVERY WAY TO THIS POCKET
IT LOOKS AS IF THE WHITE PEACOCK, DETAILED SO REALISTIC AND DEFINITIVELY IN A JAPANESE MANOR, WAS ADDED TO THE BOX AFTER THE MILITARY KANJI. WHAT AMAZES ME IS WE HAVE PEACE AND WAR BOTH MAGNIFIED BY SYMBOLISM ON THE SAME BOX. I WILL SAY THE BOX IS WORTH 250.00. YOU MAY SAY I AM CRAZY, BUT HOW MANY VINTAGE POCKET WATCH BOXES APPEAR?? HOW ABOUT ASIATIC BOXES? MAN, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF POCKET WATCHES WERE MADE, BUT HOW MANY JAPANESE OR CHINESE ?? WITH BOXES??
CONDITION IS GOOD TO EXCELLENT
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The Yangzhou riot of August 22–23, 1868 was a brief crisis in Anglo-Chinese relations during the late Qing Dynasty. The crisis was fomented by the gentry of Yangzhou who opposed the presence of foreign Christian missionaries in the city, who claimed that they were legally residing under the provisions of the Convention of Peking. Threats against the missionaries were circulated by large character posters placed around the city. Rumors followed that the foreigners were stealing babies and killing them to make medicine.Chinese were estimated at eight to ten thousand who assaulted the premise of the British China Inland Mission in Yangzhou by looting, burning and attacking the missionaries. No one was killed, however several of the missionaries were injured as they were forced to flee for their lives.
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WE FOUND RUST ON METAL HINGE
AND
INNER BOTTOM OF BOX
I USED A RUST NULLIFIER BUT DID NOT TAKE PICS
SO EXPECT ALL RUST TO BE GONE
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1876 Ganghwa Treaty.Japan–Korea Treaty of 1876,
1880 painting. Source:”Saigo Takamori and Okubo Toshimichi”.
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BOTTOM OF BOX IS EXCELLENT
SO OUTER COVERS IS EXCELLENT
THE INNER AREA IS OLD AND WORN MATERIAL
WHILE IS IS IN POOR CONDITION
IT IS NOT BUT NOT GOING TO FALL APART
THE TWO PICTURES ARE SET TO THE CASE
HOLDING IT AS ONE
NOTE THE ORIGINAL NECK HOLDER
I USED THE RUST NULLIFIER AND IT’S
CLOSURE AROUND THE WATCH IS LIKE NEW
ANOTHER SHOT
IF ANYONE CAN IDENTIFY THIS PICTURE
LET US KNOW. I AM FAR FROM CAMERA
AND PHOTO PRODUCTION TO DATE
THE PHOTOGRAPH. BLACK AND WHITE
AGED OF COURSE.
LOOKS LIKE A PALACE OR GOVERNMENT
COMPOUND. I AM FAMILIAR WITH BOTH CHINESE AND JAPANESE BUILDINGS. I AM SURE IT IS NOT KOREAN
IT LOOK EUROPEAN
THIS ONE IN THE TOP SECTION INNER CASE
LOOKS LIKE A CATHOLIC CHURCH
NOTE HOW IS LOOK LIKE
St. Peter’s Basilica
VATICAN CHURCH
BUT IT IS NOT
MATERIAL IN BACK LOOKS LIKE SILK
NOTE THAT PROOF OF PICTURES BEING IN CASE
FOR A A LONG TIME IS THE RUSTY TRANSFER
AT PICTURE TOP AND ONTO THE SILK
FROM MOISTURE THAT ONCE INVADED INTO CASE
AND RUSTED THE METAL CASE INTERIOR UNDER
SILK AND PHOTO.
MATERIAL IS HELD TOGETHER
BY PICTURES
THE LOSS OF THE LOWER PORTION
IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE MOISTURE
AWESOME SILVER HEAVY CASE
HEAVY ENOUGH TO DEEP GRAVE
THE INNER HALLMARKS
AND
THE INNER KANJI / CHARACTER
PLACED IN CENTER THAT WOULD
TELL USE ITS STORY
WHEN HAVE WE SEEN SUCH AN AWESOME CASE
WE HAVE A SERIAL
7916
THREE IDENTIFICATIONS
LEFT TOP RIGHT
THEN CENTER MAJOR MARK
WHICH IS ON THE MOVEMENT ALSO
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A Japanese propaganda poster for the Tripartite Pact:
“Good friends in three countries”.
(left AdOolf HiItler, center Fumimaro Konoe, right Benito Mussolini)
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NOTE THAT WE LEFT THIS ORIGINAL
KEY LANYARD
IT HAS CLEAR
ASIAN STYLE
KNOTTING
AND 5 STEP
SNAKE WEAVING
A BETTER LOOK AT THIS SNAKE
WEAVE WITH PROPER KNOTTING
NOT LIKE ALL THE FACTORY “STUFF”
WE SEE TODAY
I TREATED IT
YOU WANT TO KEEP IT!
I KEY IS AS OLD AS CAN BE
NOT THE GOLD FINISH
FITS CENTER HAND SET
MAIN SPRING BARREL SET
NOT SURE OF DATE NOR CHARACTER
BUTTON OPENS THE DIAL SIDE
SILVER CASE NOT POLISHED AT ALL
ENTIRELY ORIGINAL
BUT FOR LIGHT CLOTH CLEANING
HERE SHE IS WITH LIGHT RUB DOWN
IF YOU DESIRE IT I WILL POLISH
BUT I BELIEVE THAT AFTER CLEANING
EVERY THING AND LIGHTLY USING A CLOTH
DESIGNED NOT TO REMOVE PROTECTIVE NATURAL FILM
ANY AREA WITH A LITTLE OXIDATION
SIMPLE KEEPS ITS AGE IN THE LIGHT
THE SILVER REMAINS BULLET PROOF SO TO SPEAKES
I AM SURE THESE HALLMARKS
RELATE EITHER
TO
THE MAKE UP OF THE WATCH
DATING CONTENT ETC
OR
A MIX THAT COULD INCLUDE
RELIGIOUS OR HISTORICAL OR POLITICAL
TYPE CHARACTERS
ARE IN THE CENTER
OF THE INNER SIDE
OF THE DIAL COVER
WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED WHAT LOOKS LIKE A MAKERS MARK
OR A CUSTOMIZED OWNERS MARK ON MOVEMENT AND
INNER FRONT OR DIAL SIDE CASE COVER
SHE WINDS AND SETS LIKE NEW
BACK INTO THE INNER BOX
CLOSURE AROUND THE WATCH IS LIKE NEW
SNAPS RIGHT IN
REMEMBER I USED RUST STOP AFTER THE PICS
SO NO MORE RUST ON INNER BOX
BOX WRAPPED UP
INTO OUTER BOX CLOSING TOP
READY TO PLACE IN A SAFE
CHINESE QUING DYNYSTY KEYWIND AND SET
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