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Number …..040612.FN698HY.04 Item: 1919
ELGIN POCKET WATCH WITH 17 JEWEL DAMASK MOVEMENT, SILVER OVER BRASS CASE WITH
CUSTOM MILITARY EMBOSSED SCREW DOWN CASE BACK AND SCREW DOWN BEZEL, WITH A BLACK LUMED
NUMERALED INVERSE DIAL |
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Description of item: VINTAGE
1919 ELGIN ILLUMINATED INVERTED DIAL 50 MM ACROSS
64 MM WITH BALE WITH 12 INCH CUSTOM MADE DROP FOB. DATED 1919 ELGIN POCKET WATCH
WITH 17 JEWEL DAMASK MOVEMENT, SILVER OVER BRASS CASE WITH CUSTOM MILITARY EMBOSSED SCREW
DOWN CASE BACK AND SCREW DOWN BEZEL, WITH A BLACK LUMED NUMERALED INVERSE DIAL WITH LUMED
OVER SPADE HANDS AND A ROCK SPECIAL 12 INCH PROFESSIONAL CUSTOM WATCH FOB..Estimated Retail Replacement Value $790.00 |
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1919
ELGIN
ILLUMINATED
INVERTED DIAL
50 MM ACROSS
64 MM WITH BALE
WITH
AWESOME
12 INCH CUSTOM MADE
DROP FOB
WITH
Elgin National Watch Company
1864 - 1964
WWI-1919-ELGIN-DRIVERS-AIRCORP-MILITARY--REVERSE
INVERTED-DIAL-POCKET-WATCH
The ELGIN INVERTED dial - available in black &
white-- is alleged to have been originally developed to enable owners of cars, trucks and
airplanes/areoplanes [ including commercial] to convert an ELGIN SIZE 16 pocket
watched into dash clocks.
It is also alleged the reason it was inverted was
that:
a) the winding stem was at the bottom, making
is convenient to wind, and to protect the watch from soil dirt water.
b) the subseconds at the top made it easier to view
more precisely and time more precisely.
I believe it was both:
By 1908, speedometer companies were producing and
marketing clocks as after-market accessories. Over the next decade
In 1911 the first dash board Chronograph was
patented by Heuer. It had it's crown UP.
Between In 1912- 1925, Phinney-Walker and Waltham
made available car clocks that wound from the front rim of the clock.
Then came the eight day clocks. with winding from
bottom. [ Jaeger made an eight day with inverted dial ].
USAGE
During its day, the reverse dial was popular among
military personal, private drivers, pilots, race car drivers, and many others who required
an easy access dash mounted watch/clock device .
MILITARY
I have seen WWI photos of men wearing ELGIN
reverse/inverted dial pocket watches on LANYARDS around their necks. And I have overhauled
several ELGIN 15j inverted dial pocket watches with long loop-over-loop leather "belt
fob"s.
I have worked on some Japanese and German inverted
dial military pocket watches; including two Japanese ELGINS!
AIRCRAFT
Following World War I, the United States was swamped
with aviators who invested in war-surplus aircraft. These flyers earned income with
barnstorming campaigns and by performing aerobatic maneuvers at events. Many of these
flyers would EVENTUALLY join various commercial ventures.
In 1918, the United States Postal Service received
financing from Congress to begin experimenting with air mail service using Curtiss Jenny
aircraft procured by the United States Army Air Service. And in 1919 Chalk's International
Airlines began a service between Miami and Bimini in the Bahamas.
CONCLUSION
THIS BEAUTY IS A DATED 1919 ELGIN POCKET WATCH
WITH 17 JEWEL DAMASK MOVEMENT, SILVER OVER BRASS CASE WITH CUSTOM MILITARY EMBOSSED SCREW
DOWN CASE BACK AND SCREW DOWN BEZEL, WITH A BLACK LUMED NUMERALED INVERSE DIAL WITH LUMED
OVER SPADE HANDS AND A ROCK SPECIAL 12 INCH PROFESSIONAL CUSTOM WATCH FOB.
THIS OFFER IS FOR ONE
ELGIN
REVERSE DIAL
MILITARY WATCH
50 MM ACROSS
64 MM WITH BALE
AS YOU CAN SEE
THE DIAL DOES NOT HAVE A
"12"
THIS FACTORY DIAL HAS
SECONDS REGISTER
IN PLACE
OF THE
12
DIAL AND NUMERALS
ARE
ORIGINAL
NUMERALS
HAVE BEEN
RE-LUMED
THUS DIAL IS ALL ORIGINAL
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
ILLUMINATING
THE NUMERALS
LUME IS MIXED
AND
THINLY APPLIED
TO THE
NUMERALS
AND
HANDS
RE-ILLUMINATED
WITH
AF-LUMINOVA
HIGH-PERFORMANCE
PHOSPHORESCENT PIGMENT
THE CRYSTAL IS AN AFTER MARKET
NEW PLASTIC/ACRYLIC
CRYSTAL
AND
THIS ELGIN HAS
SCREW DOWN BEZEL
AND
SCREW DOWN CASE BACK
THIS WATCH WAS MEANT
TO BE WORN BELOW
A VEST OR RIB POCKET
THE IDEA WAS TO BE ABLE TO
QUICKLY & CONVENIENTLY
READ TIME
CASE IS AWESOME
IT IS
BRASS BASE WITH SILVER
IT ALSO HAS AN ADDED
BRASS AND SILVER
MILITARY EAGLE
LIKE THOSE WORN ON A
U.S.A. MILITARY DRESS
CAP OR HAT
THE ATTACHMENT
OF THE EAGLE
IS PERMANENT
CASE HAS BRASSING
BUT IT JUST MAKES THIS
WATCH THAT MUCH BETTER
THE STYLE OF LEATHER FOB
THAT IS DISPLAYED
IN OUR MILITARY WATCH BOOK
WAS LOOPED LEATHER
IF I GET THE TIME I WILL POST A PIC
WE COULD NOT FIND ONE
SO I MADE A REALLY AWESOME
STUNNING LEATHER FOB
I BEGAN WITH 2 LEATHER FOBS
I THEN USED BRASS RIVETS TO MAKE ONE
12 INCH FOB
ON ONE END YOU HAVE A BUCKLE
FOR EASY REMOVAL FROM
THIS ELGIN POCKET WATCH
THE BUCKLE IS A STANDARD
WATCH FOB BUCKLE
ON THE OTHER END
I USED BRASS RIVETS
AND
A FAST RELEASE
KEY CHAIN DEVICE
[I SCAVENGED IT FROM MY KEY CHAIN!!]
AS YOU CAN SEE
YOU CAN ATTACH TO BELT
TO LOOPS
TO WHATEVER
WHEN YOU PUSH THE
CENTER PIECE IN THE
BOTTOM END WITH
THE BALL BEARINGS
IT RELEASES
THE FOB & WATCH
ABOVE DEMONSTRATES
HOW IT WORKS
A PUSH WITH FOREFINGER
WILL SEPARATE
AND
PUSHING TOGETHER
RE-ATTACHES
THEN I UTILIZED A GENUINE
WATERBURY WWII
BUTTON
TO COMPLETE
THIS ENSEMBLE
WITH A SOLDERED RING
IT FIT WHERE THE TOP
BUCKLE WOULD BE
PERFECT FOR THIS
AWESOME PIECE
WAS ITS AGEDNESS
[IS THAT A WORD?]
NOTICE THAT IT FITS PERFECT
IT SHOWS EVEN WHEN
THE WATCH IS IN
YOUR POCKET
YOU CAN SEE WHY
WE HAVE
OUR OWN
DEDICATED SERVER
JUST TO SERVE
THE MANY IMAGES
WE SHOW
WITH EVERY OFFER!!
I HAVE LEARNED
THROUGH EXPERIENCE
ORANGE WOOD
IS AN EXCELLENT
MATERIAL
FOR BUTTON
INSTALLATION
IT TENDS TO ENLARGE
VERSES SHRINKING
OVER TIME
VERY NICE
BAM BAM BAM
OVERALL GREAT
CASE CONDITION
COMPLETE STRIP DOWN
OF EVERYTHING
BEZEL FOR CRYSTAL
RE-ILLUMINATED
WITH
AF-LUMINOVA
HIGH-PERFORMANCE
PHOSPHORESCENT PIGMENT
DIAL IS ORIGINAL
EXCEPT THE NUMERALS
WERE RE-ILLUMINATED
22770575
1919
17 JEWELS
ELGIN NAT'L WATCH CO
U.S.A.
WITH MICRO SCREW/NUT REGULATION ADJUSTING
ADD STEEL SWIVEL CLASP
MAKES IT EASY TO ATTACH TO WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO ATTACH THE LEATHER FOB TO
TAKES A SEC TO DISENGAGE
WELL BUILT
BETTER THAN THE
CLOSED DOUBLE LOOP
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CONDITION
- EXCELLENT-
WATCH WINDS SETS & KEEPS TIME
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