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Date/Report Number …..051212R5BY.04 Item:  VFIRST FACTORY DESIGNED Seth Thomas Wrist Watch
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Description of item: 1914 FIRST FACTORY DESIGNED Seth Thomas Wrist Watch WITH 15 JEWEL
"QUICK TRAIN" [18,000 BPH] HIGH FINISH SETH THOMAS MOVEMENT

.Estimated Retail Replacement Value $795.00


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VINTAGE
1914
FIRST FACTORY DESIGNED
Seth Thomas
Wrist Watch

WITH

15 JEWEL
"QUICK TRAIN"
[18,000 BPH]
HIGH FINISH
SETH THOMAS
MOVEMENT

WITH

FIRST EVER
SETH THOMAS
FACTORY INTEGRATED LUGS
WRIST WATCH CASE
31 X 36 X 11 MM
W/O CROWN

with

NEW HIGH GRADE
HAND MADE
BLACK LEATHER WATCH STRAP

 

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SETH THOMAS BEGAN PRODUCING POCKET AND WRIST WATCHES BETWEEN 1884 AND 1915. THE FIRST AND ONLY SETH THOMAS PRODUCED  WRIST WATCHES WERE INTRODUCED ONLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THE COMPANY CHANGED HANDS IN 1931 

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A GENUINE FIRST GENERATION EDITION SETH THOMAS [1914]WRIST WATCH WITH AN ORIGINAL GOLD FILLED ONION CROWN, HEAVY CHROME PLATED DOUBLE CASE WITH INTEGRATED LUGS AND SPRING BARS. THOUGH STRAIGHT FRICTION PINS COULD HAVE BEEN USED WHEN FIRST RELEASED.

 

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UNLIKE MANY COMPANIES THAT SIMPLY ADDED WIRE LUGS OR 1ST GENERATION LUGS TO AN EXISTING POCKET OR PENDANT WATCH CASE, SETH THOMAS, FOLLOWING AMERICAN WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY,   UTILIZED A TWO PART CASE WITH EXTENDED CROWN TUBE AND INTEGRATED LUGS TO ENCASE SMALL POCKET OR PENDANT WATCH MOVEMENTS

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THE DIAL ABOVE IS THE ORIGINAL THAT IS IN THIS SETH THOMAS
WE ALSO HAVE A SETH THOMAS MODIFIED TRENCH WATCH DIAL
PLEASE CONTACT US IF INTERESTED

MOST DIALS UTILIZED FOR FIRST GENERATION WRIST WATCHES, INCLUDING TRENCH WATCHES, WERE IN FACT THE SAME POCKET AND PENDANT WATCH PORCELAIN DIALS WITH A VARIETY OF NUMERAL AND LAYOUT STYLES. THIS WWI ERA 1914 SETH THOMAS HAS A POCKET WATCH STYLE PORCELAIN DIAL WITH BLACK ROMAN NUMERAL HOUR MARKERS, BLACK   BUTLERS STYLE SUB-SECONDS REGISTER AND RED ARABIC MINUTE MARKERS.

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WHILE THE CASES WERE IN FACT "WRIST WATCH CASES" WITH FIXED LUGS, WITH CROWNS RAPIDLY ADAPTING TO THE WRIST WATCH CROWN WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH TODAY,  WALTHAM AND SETH THOMAS HAD YET TO DEVELOP A NEW MEANS TO WIND AND SET THIS NEW WRIST WATCH SO THEY AGAIN, LIKE THE MOVEMENTS AND DIALS, USED     POCKET WATCH TECHNOLOGY.

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A SQUARE POCKET WATCH STEM SCREWED INTO A CROWN. THEN THE STEM IS PUSHED THROUGH THE STEM TUBE, AND A SPLIT STEEL SLEEVE WAS PUSHED ONTO THE STEM FROM INSIDE THE CASE. THIS SYSTEM WAS UTILIZED ON MOST ANTIQUE POCKET WATCHES BEFORE THE ACTUAL INTERIOR MOVEMENT WINDING/SETTING MECHANISM WAS ALTERED TO INCLUDE A STEM WITH LOCK CHANNEL, AND A SET LEVER WITH SCREW SYSTEM. YET THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THE RESTORATION OF THESE RARE WALTHAM AND SETH THOMAS FIRST GENERATION WRIST WATCHES ARE THOSE    VERY "SLEEVES"; THEY CAN WEAR OUT OR BREAK WHEN OPERATED OVER MANY GENERATIONS. 

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THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS TIME PIECE, IT'S DATE OF MANUFACTURE,  AND THE FACT SETH THOMAS QUIT MAKING WRIST AND POCKET WATCHES IN 1915 WAS THE CAUSE AND REASON IT WAS CHOSEN AS A CANDIDATE FOR RESTORATION. NO ONE WOULD OR COULD REALIZE IT WOULD TAKE A YEAR AND 4 SEPARATE FIRST GENERATION WATCH BUYS BEFORE ALL "BUGS" WOULD BE WORKED OUT & PARTS FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE WARRANTY WORK ACQUIRED.

 

 

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Thomas was born in Wolcott, Connecticut, in 1785. He started in the clock business in 1807, working for clockmaker Eli Terry. In 1810, he bought Terry's clock business though chose to sell his partnership in 1812, moving in 1813 to Plymouth Hollow, Connecticut, where he set up a factory to make metal-movement clocks. He died in 1859.In 1875 the town was renamed Thomaston in Thomas' memory

Thomaston was originally part of the Farmington Proprietor's purchase in 1684 of the Mattatuck Plantation, the Thomaston area achieved independence in 1739, as the Northbury Parish. Northbury and Westbury united in 1780 to form Watertown. In 1795 Northbury again separated to become Plymouth, the Thomaston section was called Plymouth Hollow.

In 1813 a man named Seth Thomas came to the hollow to manufacture clocks. By 1856 Thomas was labeling his clocks with "Thomas Town." He helped route the Naugatuck railroad through Plymouth Hollow, linking Plymouth Hollow with the brass center at Waterbury.

On July 6,1875 Thomas Town became Thomaston in memory of Seth Thomas and the separation from Plymouth was confirmed by the State Legislature.

IN 1859, his son Aaron became president and began to add new clocks to the company's line.The Seth Thomas Clock Company was considered to be one of the premiere American clock manufactures well into the 20th century. Between 1865 and 1879 they operated as Seth Thomas' Sons & Company.

Between 1884 and 1915 Seth Thomas manufactured jeweled pocket watches. In 1931 they became a subsidiary of General Time Instruments Corporation.

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NEW OLD SETH THOMAS GOLD FILLED ONION CROWN WITH STEM & SLEEVE

Production of pocket and wrist watches under the Seth Thomas Name ceased in 1915 and would not resume until MANY years after the company was purchased by General Time Instruments Corporation during the great depression in 1931.

 

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The Seth Thomas Clock Company was a premiere American clock manufacturing company that prospered into the 20th century. It's founder, Seth Thomas (1785-1859) ,  had been manufacturing clocks since 1814. But it was in 1853, that Seth Thomas incorporated the Seth Thomas Clock Company in Sleepy Hollow, Connecticut. And it was the success of the company that led the citizens of Sleepy Hollow to rename the city to Thomaston . 

In 1859, Seth Thomas passed away and his son, Aaron, became president of the Seth Thomas Clock Company. Between 1862 and 1880, the decisions of Aaron Thomas would propel the company into the 20th century.  He purchased the patent rights of Wait T. Huntington and Harvey Platts of Ithaca, New York to add a perpetual calendar clock and tall case clocks, Tower and Street clocks to their line.

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Between 1865 and 1879, Aaron Thomas also operated a subsidiary firm known as Seth Thomas' Sons & Company that manufactured high-grade 15-day mantel clock movements which they supplied to the New York sales outlet known as the American Clock Company.

Between 1884 and 1915 Seth Thomas would use the production facilities of the Seth Thomas clock factory to produce the tooling for the watch factory. The first watch to reach market was an 18-size, stem-wind, 3/4 plate model in 1885. Their early watches were 11-jewel and 16,000 beat train. By 1886, production had started on four additional grades of quick-train (18,000 beat per hour) watches: a 7J, 11J, 15J and 17J model.

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Production of watches ceased in 1915. In 1931, after the depression hit, like many other watch and clock manufacturers, Seth Thomas  would find itself a subsidiary of another large company, in this case it was the General Time Instruments Corporation and Seth Thomas was no longer a family business.

Over the next 50 years, Seth Thomas would decline and eventually, in 1982, moved from Connecticut to Norcross, Georgia. It is stated that The Colibri group of Providence, RI purchased the Seth Thomas trademark and name.

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This Wrist Watch is powered by a Seth Thomas pocket watch movement with pocket watch style stem and crown. Like a pocket watch, a "split sleeve" is placed into the SQUAT THICK STEM TUBE which is attached to the lower movement case, the CROWN WITH SQUARE STEM IS PUSHED THROUGH the tube INTO THE THE SLEEVE WHICH LOCKS ONTO THE STEM THROUGH FRICTION, , the movement is then dropped into the case, allowing the stem to fit into the movement.


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SETH THOMAS [AARON], ALWAYS ON THE TOP OF THE MARKET, WAS WELL INTO POCKET WATCH EXPANSION. WITH 18,000 BPH, 7, 11, 15 AND 17 JEWELED MOVEMENTS,  SETH THOMAS WAS READY TO PRODUCE WRIST WATCHES. FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF THE WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY, SETH THOMAS DECIDED TO CONVERT THE SMALLER CALIBER POCKET WATCH MOVEMENTS INTO WRIST WATCHES.

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**SETH THOMAS WOULD UTILIZE A SIMPLE CHROME PLATED "PAN CASE" IN WHICH THE POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT WAS "DROPPED IN" -- PROVIDING SOME WATER RESISTANCE DUE TO THE LACK OF A CASE BACK -- THEN A CHROME PLATED BEZEL WITH LUGS WOULD TIGHTLY FIT OVER THE BOTTOM CASE, WITH THE HIGH WALLS MESHING WITH THE BEZEL WALLS. THE LUGS WOULD HAVE HOLES DRILLED TO ALLOW WIRES OR BARS TO BE FIT

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ABOVE IS THE LEATHER STRAP WE CHOSE.

PLEASE CONTACT US
BEFORE YOU INVEST
IF YOU DESIRE
A DIFFERENT COLOR OR UPGRADE.

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SAME MODEL STRAPS IN A DIFFERENT COLOR OR DIFFERENT MODEL IN SAME PRICE RANGE ARE FREE UNLESS NOT IN STOCK,  A 5.00 FEE WILL BE ASSESSED IF WE HAVE TO ORDER OVERNIGHT FROM OUR SUPPLIER. COST TO US IS 10.00. IF WE ARE PLACING ORDER NO CHARGE. SO CONTACT US FIRST.

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VERY UNUSUAL FOR IT'S TIME, THIS CASE HAS 18MM LUGS.
THE AVERAGE OUTSIDE OF SOME TRENCH WATCHES
WITH WELDED OR SOLDERED WIRE LUGS
AS SIZE 15 OR SIZE 14. THOUGH MANY TRENCH WATCHES
WERE EVEN SMALLER

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YOU MAY ALSO REQUEST AN UPGRADE AS LONG AS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ADDITION COSTS. SO CONTACT US FIRST BEFORE INVESTING

 

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STRAP IS HAND STITCHED INCLUDING KEEPERS

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THE BLUED STEEL HANDS ARE ORIGINAL

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A COMPLETE OVERHAUL

 

 

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Seth Thomas Watch Co
Thomaston, Connecticut
1883-1915

ORIGINAL QUALITY
15J
SETH THOMAS
THOMASTON CONN
POCKET WATCH MOVEMENT
THE ACTUAL SERIAL NUMBER PREDATES
PRODUCTION DATE WHICH DEMONSTRATES
THAT SETH THOMAS UTILIZED TRIED AND TRUE
POCKET WATCH MOVEMENTS

 

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CONDITION
- EXCELLENT- 
WATCH WINDS SETS & KEEPS TIME