NOTE: THE ONLY DIVE WATCH US MIL CONTRACTS WERE THE CANTEEN AND THE TORNEK. IF SOME ONE CAN PINT ANOTHER I WOULD BE HAPPY TO KNOW. FROM ROLEX TO SEA WOLF, MANY DIVES WERE UTILIZED BY NAVY DIVERS UDT ETC, HELIO AND JET PILOTS ALSO UTILIZED MANY DIFFERENT WATCHES, BUT ONLY MIL SPEC WATCHES FROM WWI THROUGH SPEC DESERT STORM ARE CONSIDERED “MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES. MILITARY WATCHES ARE SPEC SHEET CONTRACTED WITH EVERY IOTA PRE SCREENED AND WRITTEN DOWN ON SHEETS. WE HAVE MANY ON OUR SITES. THEY HAVE NUMBERS LIKE A-11 FOR HACKING PILOTS WATCH WWII OR A-17 FOR KOREAN WAR HACKING OR MIL-W-3818-A FOR POST KOREAN WAR TO PRE-VIETNAM WAR. EACH HAS A 5TIO 15 PAGE SPEC SHEET. THEN A CONTRACT WITH MANUFACTURER SPECIFYING ALL PARTICULARS FROM CASE TO MOVEMENT TO CRYSTAL TO CROWN TO MOVEMENT TO HOW THEY WILL BE SERVICED OR IN THE CASE OF VIETNAM WATCHES NOT SERVICED. HOW LONG THEY WILL LAST. WATCHES ARE NOT SIMPLY MADE AND THEN PURCHASED BY THE MILITARY. THEY HAD TO BE TESTED AND INSPECTED ETC. THUS, ALL THE STORIES OF WATCHES SERVING WITH THE SEALS OR UDT OR PILOTS OR GRUNTS OR ASTRONAUTS OR ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY, FROM TIMERS TO POCKETS TO JETS TO SPECIALTY TO SUBS TO DESTROYERS TO CLOCKS HAD AN ID, A NUMBER A SPEC A DATE AND THEY WERE ALL ENGRAVED ON THE CASE BACK. EVEN THE DIALS WERE SPECKED. ONLY THE CANTEEN DIVE AND APP 15000 TORNEK RAYVILLE [SEALS VIETNAM] WERE THUS CONTRACTED. I HAVE RECORDS UP TO 1975. IF YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL I WOULD BE HAPPY…..
well here is what i have looked for
this is after Vietnam though
FOR ROCKS ANSWER TO THE EBAY OFFER
FOR THE ORIGINAL EBAY CONTENT
—BELOW THIS FACTUAL STORY ARE A LIST OF FREE PDF TRAINING DOWNLOADS. PLEASE NOTE THE POPULAR DOWNLOAD NUMBERS. THEY ARE NOT THE FINALITY OF THEIR SUBJECTS, JUST PRETTY GOOD PICTORIAL HISTORICAL INTRODUCTIONS TO HISTORIC VINTAGE, I HOPE THEY LEAD YOU TO THE PLENTIFUL EXPERTS, BOOKS AND PUBLISHINGS AVAILABLE, MY WIFE SOMETIMES HAS TO BURY MY AREA IN THE THIRTY OR SO BOOKS I AM READING AT ONE TIME LOLOLOLOL LET THESE BE YOUR STARTING POINT. ENJOY—
—I DID NOT POST THIS OBVIOUS BEGINNERS NAME OR EBAY ID BUT AS YOU CAN READ THIS WAS A TERRIBLE OFF SUBJECT ABSOLUTE FALSE ESSAY ON MILITARY WATCHES WRITTEN TO SELL WHAT IS NOT A VERY GOOD TOP LINE 324 HOUR ZODIAC PRODUCT—-
—-NOTE. THE FEATURE PICTURE IS NOT THE ZODIAC 24 HOUR WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT, IT IS A TRUE ZODIAC VIETNAM ERA 24HR ROCK RESTORATION. ROCK HIGHLY RECOMENDS THIS MILITARY HIGH END HACKING AUTOMATIC ZODIAC GMT AERO TRUE DUAL TIME 24 TIME PILOT DIVER ROCK RESTORED ILLUMINATED [HE RESTORED EVEN THE THE BEZEL]—-
–AN EBAY POST THAT STATED THE —
[“The USA is one of the few countries that have ever issued a military watch to pilots.“]
—‘not the germans from wwi through afghanistan, not the italians, not the japanese, not the poles, not the french, not the checs, not the rooskies, i mean non other then the yanks? rock’—-
[” 24 Hour Zodiac Jet Astronaut, the Unofficial Pilot Watch of the Viet Nam Era
[“The USA is one of the few countries that have ever issued a military watch. They have issued such things as zig-zag clocks, that time the zigs and zags of ships trying to avoid submarines, torpedo boat watches and even navigator pocket watches for bombers during WWII, but they have never issued a pilots watch. If there is any watch which was the unofficial pilot watch of the US Air force, particularly during the Viet Nam era, it was the Zodiac Jet Aeronaut, one of the best 24 hour watches ever made.”]
[“Zodiac is probably best known for their iconic Seawolf diving watch. US Navy underwater demolition teems started using this watch in the 1960s, and it has stayed in use by them up to this day. The 1960s were an era of peak creativity for Zodiac. As well as bringing out the Seawolf, they also brought out interesting watches with asymmetric cases and mystery dial, as well as venturing into the production of 24 hour watches. “]
—-SEALS/UDT PURCHASED A FEW PERSONALLY, BUT THREE CONTRACTS BY THE NAVY WITH BULOVA /TORNEK RAYVILLE [BLANCPAIN] WERE THE WATCHES THAT WERE PROVIDED FOR NAVY SEALS/UDT. 15000 WATCHES FOR SEAL/UDT IN VIETNAM. NOT THE ZODIAC SEA WOLF. THAT IS A TALE. ALL WATCHES WERE PURCHASED THROUGH CONTRACT WITH THE MILITARY PROVIDING SPECIFICATIONS NOT COMPANIES.rock—–
—-THE FIRST OFFICIAL CONTRACTS FOR VIETNAM AND DIVE WATCHES IN PARTICULAR FROM 1956 THROUGH 1965 WERE ORDERED WITH BULOVA THEN TORNEK RAYVILLE. http://lsyf.com/dive-watches-a-history/ } WE HAVE THE CONTRACTS AND SPECS AND HISTORY –—-
—-THE STORY OF SEA WOLF IS A COMMON FAIRY TALE TOLD TO BOOST VINTAGE SEAWOLF SALES. I QUOTE THE USE OF SEA WOLF IN THE NAM, BUT NOT AS SEAL USE. THE ONLY 24HR WATCH MADE BY ZODIAC THAT IS ALL ZODIAC WAS THE AERO SPACE GMT HACKING DIVE 24 / 12 HOUR.—
[‘Very few Swiss manufacturer make 24 hour watches, as they are dependent upon military orders or orders from the small core of 24 hour watch enthusiasts.Economically, this is usually not enough to justify bringing 24 hour watches into production, which accounts for how rare Swiss made 24 hour watches are. But during the 1960s, Zodiac, which was already selling the Seawolf to the US Navy saw a chance, and brought the Jet Aeronaut into production.’]
—WHAT MILITARY EVER ORDERED A 24HR WATCH??????????—
[” This said exactly who the watch was aimed at. As there was no official pilots watch issued by the US Air Force, this quickly became the watch of choice, and could be found at most PX for those airmen (and other soldiers) who wanted a 24 hour watch.”]
—-THE FACT IS THAT THE ALLEGED 24 HR ZODIAC OFFERED HEREIN IS NOT ACTUALLY A ZODIAC , THE ENGINE WAS NOT MADE, DESIGNED, IMPROVED OR HAS ANYTHING AT ALL THAT CAN BE STATED TO BE ZODIAC. IF IS A FULL FHF MOVEMENT WITH RUSSIAN DESIGNED 24HR WHEEL SYSTEM. A CHEAP SYSTEM. IN FACT THE REASON IT IS “RARE IS DUE TO ITS LACK OF SUCCESS AND ITS FAILURE TO ENDURE ESPECIALLY IN THE FIELD. WELL ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS ASK ANYONE WHO SERVED, IS IN THE VINTAGE WATCH BIZ, OR RESTORES WATCHES, OR SEARCH FOR PILOTS WATCH US MILITARY PILOTS WATCH VIETNAM WAR.. I HAVE ALL SPEC SHEETS CONTRACTS AND I HAVE RESTORES ALL 17 AVAILABLE BRANDS. THE MIL-W-3818-A HACKING SIMILAR TO THEN THE MIL-W-3818-B HACKING [BOTH SIMILAR TO KOREAN WAR A-17 HACKING SIMILAR TO HACKING WWII A-11 HACKING PILOTS SIMILAR TO UNIVERSAL HACKING DU-2/P. SO A HACKING PIOLTS WATCH FROM WWII KOREA AND VIETNAM WERE SUPPLIED BY US GOVERNMENT. NEED A MOVE TO SHOW VIETNAM B52 CREWS WEARING GOV ISSUE PILOT/NAVIGATOR WATCHES HACK SETTING ZULU TIME IN TJHAILAND BASE SHACK BEFORE BOMBING MISSION I HAVE ONE…—-
[“The watch was made as near as possible to military spec of that time: the case was all stainless, and Zodiac proudly engraved on the back of the watch, which they called “***Hermetic” that it was water resistant and ***shock proof. Zodiac even engraved a fish on the back, perhaps playing on the reputation for quality they had picked up from their Seawolf series.”]
—–MILITARY SPECS???? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???? ARE YOU AWARE SPECS CHANGE? THAT THE VIETNAM NORM FOR THE HACKING WATCH WAS SURVIVE TWO YEARS WITH NO MAINTENANCE? THEY COULD HAVE7 JEWELS BE A WESTCLOX OR TIMEX IN A CHEAP PLASTIC CASE BUT JUST SURVIVE TWO YEARS WITH NO SERVICE. WAS THAT THESTANDARD??? WHY DO YOU WRITE THIS SHT??? HERE YOU ARE PROMOTING A RUSSIAN DESIGN 24HR EATCH BY A SECONDARY SWISS BRAND AS A TOP RATED BRAND???? —t
heris was are no contracts or spec sheets that show, demonstrate prove that any contract by the us military or the A NAVY itself FOR A SEA WOLF exist nor a seawolf watch or a seawolf watch with us military marking xists.neigther in any military book on watches. thereis a britisdh prototype automatic.but no automatic atall for any us military watch. never was from wwi to desert storm. ?? I HAVE LY ALL CONTRACTS BUT HAVE NEVER EVER COME ACROSS A NAVY SEA WOLF CONTRACT NOR A SEA WOLF WITH MILITARY OWNERSHIP OR STOCK NUMBERS IN 32 YEARS. OR A BOOK? A PIC?—
***OH– WRONG AGAIN…WRONG AGAIN
of a seal or closure) complete and airtight.
“a hermetic seal that ensures perfect waterproofing”
DOES NOT MEAN SHOCK PROOF IT MEANS VACUUM SEALED AGAINST WATER
Please watch photo carefully before bid.
—-Hesalite is the tradename for an advanced synthetic (plastic) crystal. It’s an improvement over older acrylic crystals, but it’s nowhere near as hard as sapphire. The advantages are that it’s lighter, it’s not as inherently shiny, so it has less glare, it’s shatterproof, and if it gets scratched, you can polish out the scratches. Also, since it’s easier to work, you’re more likely to find glare reducing domed surfaces on a Hesalite crystal than a sapphire one, although many sapphire watch crystals are domed as well. It’s just not as common.
i doubt it is sythetic plastic if it is original///// not available back when—-
WAR INSPIRED WATCHES.pdf
FAKE_VIETNAM_DIVE_WATCHES_50717 they were released after the vietnam war VIETNAM MILITARY WATCHES 231 FAKE VIETNAM DIVE WATCH MKI MKII 50717 BELOW IS A LIST OF MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS. NOTE THAT ALL DATES DO NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE DATE OF ISSUE TO FORCES. THE FIRST CONTRACT FOR A MIL ISSUE WATCH FOR VIETNAM WENT TO[…]