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BRITISH

A QUICK GUIDE TO THE
BRITISH MILITARY WATCH

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THE BRITISH ADMIRALTY REMAINED THE NATIONS PREMIER MILITARY POLITICAL FORCE AND MILITARY POWER UNTIL THE AGE OF AIRCRAFT AT THE END OF WWII, IT WAS THE ADMIRALTY WHOM WERE THE FIRST TO ORDER WATCHES AND TIMERS AND DESIGN THE PROCEDURES OF TESTING THEN APPLYING A PATTERN NUMBER FOR EACH TYPE.

“Each watch is to be labeled with its price, including a mahogany box with ivory label, be cleaned after trial and engraved with the Government mark on the dial and plate of the movement, with name of the maker, the No.of the watch, the letters D.W., and the Government mark on the ivory label of the box.

 

 

 

 

1890 TRIALS FOR CHRONOMETERS
Chronometer makers who may care to send watches to the trial must first obtain permission from the Hydrographer, Admiralty, Whitehall, S.W., To whom all requests for such permission must be sent not later than October 6.
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The watches are to be deposited here between the hours of 10 and 1 on any day (excepting Sunday),. during the week ending with October 20th, after which no watch can under any circumstances be received.
The rating this year commences on Saturday, October 25 and will be as follows:
Watch horizontal, dial up, in room for 6 weeks
Watch horizontal, dial up, in oven for 1 week
Watch vertical, pendant up, in oven for 4 days
Watch vertical, pendant right, in oven for 3 days
Watch vertical, pendant left, in oven for 3 days
Watch vertical, pendant up, in oven for 4 days
Watch horizontal, dial up, in oven for 1 week
Watch horizontal, dial up, in room for 6 weeks
The mean temperature in the oven will be from 80-85 degrees Fahrenheit.
The watches are to be in silver cases with crystal glass, and each must bear a distinguishing No. engraved on the plate of the movement, Preference will be given to key less watches

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MESSAGE TO A 1916 ANNUAL MEETING OF
CLOCK WATCH AND JEWELRY WHOLESALERS

“The public is buying the practical things of life. Nobody can truthfully contend that the watch is a luxury. In these days the watch is as necessary as a hat – more so, in fact. One can catch trains and keep appointments without a hat, but not without a watch.

It is said that one soldier in every four wears a wristlet watch, and the other three mean to get one as soon as they can.

Wristlet watches are not luxuries; wedding-rings are not luxuries. These are the two items jewelers have been selling in the greatest quantities for many months past.”

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THe Standard British Trench Watch. IN The Beginning Most Were Not Numeral Illuminated And Had Black Dials With Carthedral Style Illuminated Hands. Then Came The Illuminated Dials. While In The Beginning, Many Trench Watches Were In Fact Converted Ladies Pocket Watches Or Small Mens Pocket Watches. The British Invested in Trench Watches That Were Built As Such. Two Above Are In Fact British Restorations By Rock. In Most Cases –The Pun Is Intended — Look At Your Case Then Match Hallmarks. Remember To Check All Marks, Just A Made In Birmingham Et Al Does Not Mean It Was Even Sold In England. Note. The Westend Trench Watch On Lower Left In Black And Gold.

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ONE OF ROCKS BEST RESTORATIONS
ENGLISH OFFICERS “WATER PROOF”

 

 

 

 

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PATTERN NUMBERS WERE NOT ASSIGNED TO TRENCH WATCHES

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The West End Watch Company began there journey in 1886 from “The West End”, a district of the center of London. The market that West End catered to was the British controlled Mid-East and India. By

1914, West End was offering solid, well made and cased Trench and Pocket Watches. Specializing in the Indian Military and Civil Services, West End, with acceptance of the British Military, produced Trench Watches that were marked C.S.for the Civil Service in India and C-tailed BROADARROW-S for Indian Military personal under British control

In 1886, MM. Amstutz and Droz, the owner of Alcide Droz & Sons firm, began the exploitation of the trademark West End Watch Company in the Indian market and developed the first waterproof pocket watch ever produced: “L’Impermeable” (nowadays displayed at the International Watchmaking Museum of La Chaux-de-Fonds).

During the First World War, a large force of British and Indian soldiers was sent from Bombay to the Persian Gulf to reach Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq). They received West End Watch Company watches.

In 1917, West End Watch Company changed its name to Société des Montres West End SA and was registered in Geneva. At the same time the sub-brand Lowan was also registered.

In 1934, the Société des Montres West End SA was the first brand to introduce the Incabloc anti-shock system invented by Mr. Braunschweig

 

 

 

 

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WWI PATTERN 4 RATTRAPANTE

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WWI PATTERN NUMBERS

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Or Much Of Her History, The British War Department Supplied Precise Details On All Facets Of Their Times Pieces. Each Model Of Pocket Watch Or Timing Device Was Tested And Then Assigned A Use And Pattern Number And A Broad Arrow Property Mark. From The Invention Of First Usable Ships Chrono And Deck Watch, To The Field Watch, To W.W.I When The Wrist Watch [Trench Watch] Became A War Tool, The Individual Departments Of The British Armed Forces Provided The Specific Requirements For Watches, Timers, Chronos They Each Required And Those Accepted Were Assigned A “Pattern” Number. Thus, Until 1938, All Watches Were Governed By Specific Requirements. From Movements To Cases To Dials, Watches Specifications Were Provided And A “Pattern” Assigned. So, A Pattern Number And Broad Arrow Were In Fact Required.
PATTERNS
#6 SERVICE #4 RATTRAPANTE
#3 STOP WATCH

 

 

 

 

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#4 RATTRAPANTE

 

 

 

 

 

WWI AND WWII TIMERS AND POCKETS

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BRITISH BROAD ARROW

A broad arrow or pheon is a type of arrow with a typically flat barbed head. It is a symbol used traditionally in heraldry, most notably in England, and later the United Kingdom to mark government property.

The Office of Ordnance was created by Henry VIII in 1544. It dates back to the position of Master of Ordnance, one of whom, Nicholas Merbury, was present at the Battle of Agincourt. The Office became the Board of Ordnance in 1597, its principal duties being to supply guns, ammunition, stores and equipment to the King’s Navy.

The headquarters and main arsenal of the Office were in the White Tower of the Tower of London. The broad arrow mark has been used over the years by the Office and Board to signify at first objects purchased from the monarch’s money and later to indicate government property.

With the demise of the Board in 1855, the War Department and today’s Ministry of Defense continued to use the mark. The arrow also appears in the Ordnance Survey logo.

The broad arrow frequently appeared on military boxes and equipment such as canteens, bayonets and rifles, as well as the British prison uniform from the 1870s, and even earlier, that of transportees in British penal colonies such as Australia. The broad arrow marks were also used by Commonwealth countries on their ordnance.

The broad arrow was used by the British to mark trees intended for ship building use in North America during colonial times. Three axe strikes resembling an arrowhead and shaft, were marked on large mast-grade trees.

It is currently a criminal offence in the United Kingdom to reproduce the broad arrow without authority

WWII

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RESTORED WWII BRITISH POCKETS + CONVERSION
A VERY FEW OF THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPLIED THE BRITISH
Buren, Helios, Vertex, Timor, Record, Omega, Lemania, Longines, IWC, Grana, Eterna, Cyma and Jaeger LeCoultre, Walthan, Elgin, Bulova, Gallet .Gala, Girard-Perregaux Glycine, Grana, Hanhart, Helbro, Helvetia, Phenix, Titus, Zenith, Mimo, Roamer,

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HELIOS W/BROADARROW

MOERIS W/BROADARROW

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OMEGA W/BROADARROW

GALLET SUB TIMER W/BROADARROW

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RECORD W/BROADARROW

WALTHAM W/BROADARROW CONVERSION
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LOOK FOR HALLMARKS

NOTE TINY BROADARROW

 

 

 

 

BRITISH MILITARY WATCHES WWII

In 1939, with war on the horizon, the British War Department realized they required time pieces. With no plans and knowing that a shortage of watches would surely occur, they quickly purchased watches from numerous Swiss watch makers and retailers.Each watch had to have 15 jewels, white dialS, and subsidiary seconds dial. AND be “waterproof”. Most of the pocket watches were titled “General Service” AND classified as “Temporary Pattern”. Thus they were stamped “GSTP”. These GSTP watches would become the work horse of the military. From Radio operators to drivers, they fulfilled the requirements of keeping time through out the war. At the conclusion of the hostilities, most of the watches purchased by the various Government Buyers were destroyed due to a deal with suppliers. The suppliers had sold these watches at a discount and they did not want the market flooded at the wars conclusion with “surplus military watches”.

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BRITISH MONTGOMERY MILITARYWATCHBOX

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BRITISH IN SICILY INCLUDES TIMERS WATCHES COMPASS ARE ALL BRITISH
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For Wrist Watches The British Provided The Minimum Standars Such As 15J Minimum And Case Design, And Watch Manufacturers Provided Watches That Met These Basic Requirements. Thus Most British Wwii Wrist Watches Were Ordered With 15 Jewels, White Dials – Some Orders Were Filled W/Black Dials & Some Radium Painted, A Sub-Seconds Register Above The 6 Position Was Standard– In The Beginning– And Cases Were Steel Or Chrome With Mainly Wired Lugs -Again Some Were Holed–, A Screw Back Case Was Required — Though Snap Back Cases Are Also Discovered.

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THE CASE BACKS HAD A VARIETY OF MARKINGS.

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“WWW” FOR WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF, BRITISH BROAD ARROW PROPERTY MARK SERIAL AND/OR SERVICE NUMBERS, “A.T.P.” “ARMY TEMPORARY PATTERN”

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RECORD

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Pocket Watches And Timers Were Invested In And, Unlike Wwi, Where Each Model Had A “Pattern Number Mark” Relating To The Specific Type Of Time Piece, The British Dropped These And The Broad Arrow Was No Longer Bold But Placed With Three Simple Lines .

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WWII G.T.S.P. POCKET SIMPLE B/A

 

 

 

 

Additionally, The British Air Ministry And Navy May Have Service Marks Like The Air Ministry “A” Or “Am”. Other Marks You Will Discover At The End Of This Essay.

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WWII BRITISH AIR MINISTRY TIMER

GALLET WWII W/OLD BROAD ARROW & NO PATTERN MARK

 

 

 

 

Another Fact Is That Usually The Broad Arrow On Wwii Models Is A Simple Straight Line Affair While Wwi Models Are Like The Above Gallet Timer On Right. Though This Particular Fancy Bold Broadarrow Was Actualy One Of A Very Few Rto Have The Older Arrow, It Just So Happens That The Timer Is A Gallet And Gallet Had Supplied Timers To The British Army, Air Ministry And Navy, So The Old Broadarrow Strikes From Wwi Were Used In Factory Due The Gallet Ongoing Relationship. Thus, If Some Of These Broadarrow Marks Do Not Identify The Time Piece As A Ww One Or Two Time Piece. The Movement Will Date It

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Note The British Air Ministry Pocket On Left Has Hand Scribed Broad Arrow With “A” For Air Ministry
Many British Wrist Watches Had Spring Bars Instead Of Soldered Wire Lugs. There Were Also Sweep Second Hand Models. So, Do Not Dismiss A Watch As Being Non-British Military Because It Does Not Measure To The Above Standards.

 

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PROTOTYPES??

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READ VIEW BUY STUDY MILITARY WATCH BOOKS

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This Is The Second Late 60’S Zodiac Automatic We Found
The British Never Authorized An Automatic Yet
It Was Featured With 300 Factual Military Watches
We Believe It Was/Is A Prototype

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Remember britian had nothing to do with vietnam and the usa did not stamp www on their military issue watches. In addition makers such as omega and iwc and longines and lacoultre did not make px/bs r&r or military watches for service in vietnam. Visit http://timefraud.Com a site we offeer that demonstrates hundreds of fakes.

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Note The Above Is A Se Asia Fake Both Omega And Iwc Branded & Other Models/Brands. Note The Cheap Modern Movement -They , The Forgers, Will Use The Same Movement Across Multipls Brands.

Another Fact Is That Watches With Www Did Not See Service In Vietnam. While The Australians Served- They Were Supplied By The Usa

 

 

 

 

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